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Tuesday, December 28, 2004

Only the blind

From the Post:

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe said that despite some shortcomings, the elections were largely fair.

"I cannot express to you how delighted I am to say that in our collective view, Ukraine's elections have moved substantially closer to meeting OSCE and other European standards in such a short period of time," Bruce George, special coordinator for the short-term observers, said at a news conference. "In our judgment, the people of this great country can be truly proud that yesterday they took a great step toward free and democratic elections by electing the next president of Ukraine."

Yanukovych dismissed that judgment, saying "only the blind couldn't see how many violations there were."

A Yushchenko spokeswoman, Irina Heraschenko, said the opposition was not worried by Yanukovych's planned appeal.

"He has the right to go to the courts," she said. "But his appeal should be based upon facts, not disappointment. And we haven't heard any facts."

She noted that Yanukovych's claim that 4.8 million people had been disenfranchised far exceeded any previous tally of the vote at home by the disabled, and that under the new regulations, everyone still had the right to apply for an at-home ballot.

Yanukovych also said he wanted his appeal heard by the entire Supreme Court of 85 judges, not the Supreme Court civil panel that overturned a Nov. 21 election in which Yanukovych was declared the official winner.

"I don't trust them," he said of the judges who heard Yushchenko's appeal.

"Yanukovych obviously did not consult any lawyers," said Sergei Koziakov, a lawyer with a leading Kiev firm. "This is all emotion. The procedural codes of Ukraine do not allow such cases to be heard by the entire Supreme Court."

A supporter of Ukraine's Viktor Yushchenko, holding a Polish flag, shouts at a rally in Kiev. Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski was among the leaders to congratulate Yushchenko.


Blogger Redneck Texan said...

Hey, the "cost of the war" has just went down by 3 billion dollars.

Your anti-war propaganda counter said 150 billion yesterday, now it has gone back to 147 billion.

I guess we must have sold some of that Iraqi oil we started this war for. If we are stealing 3 billion dollars worth a day, we can end up making a profit on this thing in a couple more months.

12/29/2004 03:24:00 AM  

Blogger Gustav said...

Interesting. Thanks for letting me know. I will investigate.

I just got back in to Warsaw Station 5 minutes ago. I'm a day late and without my luggage, so incidentally, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell all Warsaw Station readers to never, ever take Northwest Airlines.

I condemn them in the "strongest possible terms."

The strongest possible.

The belligerent tone of your comment was not lost on me, Red, and I'm always up for an argument. But at the moment Gustav wants to use all his energy to rip NWA a new asshole. Perhaps another day.

12/29/2004 01:40:00 PM  

Blogger Gustav said...

I guess we must have sold some of that Iraqi oil we started this war for. If we are stealing 3 billion dollars worth a day, we can end up making a profit on this thing in a couple more months.

Wrong again Red. Seems the people over at National Priorities Project were just being nice. They've recalculated based on the government's own estimates and decided to discount interest. Generous if you ask me.

Currently, the Cost of War calculator is set to reach $152 billion at the end of January 2005. This amount is based on the National Priorities Project analysis of the three requests made by the Bush Administration for funding for the Iraq War, and what Congress actually allocated. The most recent request passed by Congress was for an additional $25 billion which was intended to pay for the costs through the end of the calendar year(approximately). The Bush Administration is expected to request another sum of money in January or early February to continue funding through fiscal year 2005. We will update the counter after such request has been made and more information revealed about the costs of war. For more information, please see the NPP publication, 'Cost to taxpayers of new $25 billion war request.'

In the original calculations, interest costs were included, since the government is running a deficit. They are not included in the current Cost of War calculations, however. For those interested in figuring the cost of the war in Iraq, including interest, they can take the current cost as displayed on our calculator and add 40% (so that if the Cost of War calculator lists the cost as $100 billion, the true cost, after 10 years of repaying the debt, would be about $140 billion)

At the moment I'm writing this, the counter is at approximately 147,471,500,000.

At 40% interest, that's 206,460,100,000 -- if we manage to pay it off in 10 years.

Since writing that, it's now up to over 147,471,800,000 -- hard to keep up with.

Good to know we're not being stingy. 35 million is 2.37 percent of the number directly above.

$35 million is the equivalent of what the U.S. spends in Iraq in 4 hours.

12/30/2004 04:55:00 AM  

Blogger Gustav said...

Sorry, math was never my strong suit.

That's .0237%, not 2.37%.

12/30/2004 05:08:00 AM  

Blogger Redneck Texan said...

Really. I thought it was because the counter was fast approaching 152 Billion, and after it did that it would cease to be a novel advertisement on liberal minded blogs. I thought it was programmed to reach 152 after the election. But now that Congress has not authorized more the creators of the propaganda tool needed an excuse to reset it, because if it stops at 152 they will look like the fools the are. I bet it did not start low to begin with.

I mean it cant exceed 152 Billion yet, can it. So lets make up some lame ass excuse on why we reset it, so people wont delete it from their blog templates, and we will continue to get clicked on, and have some more liberal minded sheep visit our website, where we can expose them to our asinine POVs that cant conceive of any reason any war would ever be justified.

I guess I really was wrong again..huh.

12/30/2004 05:24:00 AM  

Blogger Gustav said...

Skewed point of views, yes.

That we could send, for example, 19,533,513 kids to head start instead of fighting a war in which the rational has changed half a dozen times, puts me and my family in more danger than before it started, drains our budget, burdens our children with debt, and is highly unlikely to achieve the now stated goal of producing democracy in Iraq is so skewed.

War is never justified?

Must I remind you again where I live?

THIS WAR is not justified.

But perhaps you're right. I'm awful fond of this calculator:


What's that? It's over 152,000,000,000?

Somehow the audaciousness of the even higher numbers still conveys the insanity of the waste.

12/30/2004 05:56:00 AM  

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