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Wednesday, November 09, 2005

A good morning

It's great to wake up to news like this

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Blogger Becca said...

Shame about this:

Texas voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

Still, you can't win 'em all.

11/09/2005 11:27:00 AM  


Blogger Gustav said...

It's Texas. I gave up on them long, long ago. Reading that, is like reading: "And in other news, the sun rose in the east this morning".

Completely expected.

I wonder though, how RT (Redneck Texan) voted on this one. He's conservative, but he's also got a strong libertarian streak as well.

11/09/2005 11:39:00 AM  


Blogger Redneck Texan said...

I didn't vote...but my wife, who has a tendency to get the story wrong sometimes, came into my room and told me "Texas passed a law permitting gay marriage", and my first thought was "how I am going to show my face at my blog now". :-)

Obviously we passed a law banning gay marriage, like 18 other, mostly southern states have.

I am torn on this issue like I am many others (immigration, etc). I can certainly see both sides of the argument. If I was gay it would certainly make me feel like a second class citizen, but I am not.

I really don't like to dwell on the subject too much, it makes me feel dirty just thinking about it.

If you remember Pass the Gas, his new blog is devoted exclusively to "gay issues", and as I know he is married...to a woman, I used to give him a little shit about it. But then it dawned on me that it is his daughter that is gay, and its hard to tell anybody their daughter is evil, so I have avoided fightin with him over it.

Although, being a man, I find lesbianism pretty cool ;-), but the thought of finding satisfaction in another man's hairy _______, just makes me sick at my stomach to think about.

However, as Pass has helped convince me, its not just about sex its about love. And I cant argue with the fact that most people are "born" with a sexual preference. Hell, my best friend growing up, former guitarist with Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians, turned out to be BI, and I never saw that coming, but looking back the signs were always there. I would hate to see him or anyone denied the same rights I have in regards to the one they love.

When I sit down and examine ALL the facts, I tend to believe they should be allowed to legally marry, and have every legal right I do....but not a single one more (ie: protected status).

That don't mean I want two guys kissing in front of my kids at a movie, and I don't want my schools promoting it as "normal" behavior, because biologically it is not. And I am not real cool with homosexual men being allowed to adopt or be a boy scout leader either.

But hey thats just me, I am a redneck remember.

I do find it somewhat amazing how much different the majority opinion is in different geographical locations of America... and Texas for that matter. It was soundly defeated here, something like 90/10 in most rural counties, thanks mostly to Churches violating their tax exempt status by politicking from the pulpit....again, but Travis County (Austin) once again sticks out as a blue dot on the map as they approved it overwhelmingly locally.

hpujjy...nope

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11/10/2005 03:20:00 AM  


Blogger Becca said...

That was incredibly interesting RT, really.

I've been commenting on a few anti-Islam blogs recently to provide another perspective and I have come across quite a few people who are ignoring our common humanity in favour of labelling their enemy 'Muslim', just as some label their enemy 'gay'.

It warms my soul to see a self-proclaimed redneck :) looking at facts and saying that 'I would hate to see anyone denied the same rights I have in regards to the one they love.'

I'm not gay either but really I don't see that it's any of my business to deny another human the rights we are all entitled to.

11/10/2005 10:41:00 AM  


Blogger Gustav said...

When I sit down and examine ALL the facts, I tend to believe they should be allowed to legally marry, and have every legal right I do....but not a single one more (ie: protected status).

I appreciate your honest answer RT, and the above is something I can agree with. By "protected status" what do you mean? Affirmative action or something?

11/10/2005 10:44:00 AM  


Blogger Redneck Texan said...

Protected status = inclusion into the hate crime victim status. Achieving legal status where I am as scared to fire a worthless gay employee as I am a worthless black one, for fear of accusations of discrimination. Dont want to see any government funded contracts "set aside" just for gay owned businesses kind of BS either.

Bad thing about this new no gay marriage law is first thing this morning the radical right, intoxicated by this victory, have raised the bar on their next objective.....making getting a divorce harder in Texas.... which is more legislating their morals upon the entire society bullshit. Then they will try to go after the teaching evolution in schools while working their way up to the holy grail of Roe....give em an inch.

Of course their pious agenda still scares me less than the left's, so what does that tell you.

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11/10/2005 07:47:00 PM  


Blogger Gustav said...

I remember you once commenting that you'll turn me into a neocon yet.

more legislating their morals upon the entire society bullshit. ... give em an inch.

But maybe I'll make a New Democrat out of you?

Of course their pious agenda still scares me less than the left's, so what does that tell you.

Nice save.

Still I'm afraid you just aren't as reactionary as you make yourself out to be. ;-) Whatever little common ground we find though RT, gives me hope that one day maybe the shrillness of the political debate in the states will subside in volume - a few decibles at least.

The alternative will lead somewhere very, very dangerous.

11/10/2005 08:58:00 PM  

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