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Monday, November 14, 2005

As long as we've got their prisons...

why not their rockets too?


The US' next project in Poland?


Gazeta Wyborcza
is reporting that Poland and the United States have been holding secret negotiations since last year as to whether to build one of three anti-rocket bases in Poland.

Poland's involvement in the US' anti-rocket shield program was revealed in an section of Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz's roadmap for government. Wyborcza says that the previous government had also attempted to attract the program to Poland, but always unofficially, for fear of angering European partners. Poland is competing with, among others, Hungary and the Czech Republic for the base.

In another article Gazeta reports that Dominique Moisi from the French Institute of International studies, says: "Did Poland consult its decision with European allies? Poland sees itself in the EU as a bridge between NATO and Europe. Together with this new government the question arises: Hasn't she already gone to the other side of the bridge?"

If Poland completely disregards Europe in matters like these, is it any wonder that countries like Germany go and completely disregard Poland (and Europe) when they sign reckless gas pipeline deals with the Russians?

How can Poland insist it has the right to make an individual decision about whether to allow a new US military installment on European soil, and then ask for a "common position" on Russia?

Europe is not a pot-luck buffet.

6 Comments:



Blogger Redneck Texan said...

What's with the "Their"?

What better way to guarantee "your" security, or make "you" a first strike target.

11/14/2005 03:54:00 AM  


Blogger Gustav said...

I thought their might be pronoun problems on this one. Yes, it is surely "my" government that is negotiating with Poland on this one, so when reading the title imagine I'm not saying it, Imagine it's being said by a colective Poland as a whole, or, by this guy.

As to whether this increases Poland's security, I'm highly doubutful. The missile shield program has been shown ineffective and inefficient time and again - I wonder whether "we" (read: the US) need to continue spending money on this, when we could be spending it on more effective defense, such as better anti-terrorism security at ports, to name one.

But that's really beside the point. Even if it really is in Poland's interest to have the anti-missile station within its borders, the point is that Poland (apparently) didn't consult the EU one whit on this. According to the article, these "secret negotiations" have been going on since last year - when Poland joined the EU. You think the EU might have something to say about US rocket launchers within its borders?

Poland is constantly berating Germany for not "consulting the EU" when it signed the Baltic pipeline deal with Russia. But why should Germany give up its right to such bilateral agreements with Russia when Poland is conducting its own secret bilateral negotiations with the US about something at least as important to the EU?

11/14/2005 12:24:00 PM  


Blogger beatroot said...

I saw that article too. But if you did around a bit you can see that the idea for this possible agreement goes back to late in 2003. So we definatly cannot pin this one on PiS. There will be radar type sensors and rockets that are kept underground that will burst oput opf their bunkers when they get a wiff of an incoming missle.

Only problem is that the czechs want it too, and more importantly, practically everytime the US tests one of these little rockets...it misses!

11/14/2005 04:23:00 PM  


Blogger Gustav said...

Who's pinning it on PiS? Yeah, it's clear this started earlier. Still, my question still stands - Is this not blatant hypocrisy on Poland's part?

practically every time the US tests one of these little rockets...it misses!

I haven't heard of one successful test yet. But I've been outside of the states for a few years.

Links conservative readers?

11/14/2005 08:39:00 PM  


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poland is competing with, among others, Hungary and the Czech Republic for the base.

If it would be competition, every single country involved in this would like to win US rocket base.
From public opinion, I guess that it's not a competition...

7/19/2006 08:03:00 PM  


Blogger Gustav said...

It is - or was - a competition johny (which I think Poland has now pretty much won). And all of the countries involved DID want to win the base.

So what's your point?

8/07/2006 12:14:00 PM  

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